Re: Anti-telic?
From: | Sai Emrys <sai@...> |
Date: | Friday, July 14, 2006, 14:44 |
Monsoons seem clearly telic; the have to end (for climate reasons) at
some point. Worst you could have is a couple months of 'em.
Repetition isn't the issue, it's when the event ends.
If you were creating some other verb meaning to-have-a-monsoon-anually.... :-P
- Sai
On 7/13/06, Rodlox R <rodlox@...> wrote:
> If I may ask, would it be a form of "telic" or "gnomic" apply to events such
> as monsoons {which repeat on an annual basis} ?
>
> And would it be the same whether a monsoon was presently taking place, vs if
> the monsoon ended a month ago?
>
> Just wondering, and thought to enter conversations once more.
>
> have nice days.
>
>
> >>1. Gnomic AFAIU would require it to be universally true, i.e. have no
> >>finite start point before which it may not have been true (e.g 2+2=4)
> >
> >True.
> >
> >>2. Gnomic seems exclusively a state-of-the-world or
> >>truths-about-the-world sort of thing, whereas antitelic would be a
> >>type of (forever-continuing) action, of which existence or state is a
> >>subset
> >
> >Yes, gnomic is to do with _states_ whereas, I am discovering, telic &
> >atelic are to do with processes.
> >
> >>3. Antitelic
> >
> >I do not understand what point 3 is.
> >
> >>4. They're different grammatical categories
> >
> >Semantic as well, surely. Any explicit grammaticalization of these
> >categories seem to be be related to syntax.
>
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