Re: Name mangling (Was: Re: First Sound Recording of Asha'ille!)

This should've gone to the list ... thanks Philip!

                                                      Andreas

Quoting Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:

> Was this meant for the list?
>
> If so, I suggest you forward it there, since I'd like to reply to it
> there; otherwise, I'll reply to this copy. --Ph.
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:54:24 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
> > Quoting Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:
> >
> > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:49:17 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
> wrote:
> > > > The _ñ_ has been in all along. I'm not terribly happy with it either -
> it's
> > > the
> > > > only diacritic'd letter, for a start - but the realistic alternative is
> > > using
> > > > 'k' or 'q' for [N], either of which seems overly perverse to me
> > >
> > > ANADEW: |q| is [Ng] in Fijian IIRC.
> >
> > I know, and it's [N] in my now effectively defunct conlang Kalini Sapak
> (which,
> > perhaps more obnoxiously, also uses 'j' for [G]). Doesn't mean I don't
> think
> > it's overly perverse!
> >
> > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:35:46 +0100, Carsten Becker
> > > <naranoieati@...> wrote:
> > > > - Philip Newton: Vilim Nyutan ["vilim njut_dAn]
> > >
> > > Meh :) I'm not particularly fond of initial [v] -- though in Klingon,
> > > the closest I'd get would also be vIlIp (which happens to be its own
> > > SAMPA transcription). From its form, it could be a verb: "I ....
> > > him/her/it/them"; however, no word |lIp| is currently known. |vI'lIp|
> > > (pronounced [vI?lIp]) might be a more "Klingon" form of the name,
> > > since in general, Klingon likes CVC syllables, counting [?] as a
> > > consonant.
> > >
> > > My last name would probably be |yu'tIn| [ju?tIn], though I'm also
> > > rather fond of the spelling pronunciation |newton| [newton] due to its
> > > containing the moderately-rare-in-the-natlangs-I-know diphthong [ew].
> >
> > I assume you pronounce your given name [fIlIp]?
> >
> > In Meghean, that could be closely approximated as Philip [Pilip]. "Newton"
> would
> > become Nuton [nuton] (with the quality of the second vowel picked from the
> > spelling more than anything else; Meghean doesn't have schwas).
> >
> > Tairezazh would make it Filip [fIlIp]. Or, since they got to hear of BP
> first,
> > they'd assume it's the same name and call you Feilip/Fílip [fejlip] too.
> Your
> > family name would > Nuten [nUt@n]~[nUtn=], or possibly Nouton
> > [nowt@n]~[nowtn=].
> >
> > Yargish: Firip Nutan.
> >
> >                                                      Andreas
> >
>
>
> --
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
>