Re: Name mangling (Was: Re: First Sound Recording of Asha'ille!)

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:53:49 +0100, Carsten Becker
<naranoieati@...> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 10 March 2005 09:20 +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:35:46 +0100, Carsten Becker
> >
> > <naranoieati@...> wrote:
> > > - Philip Newton: Vilim Nyutan ["vilim njut_dAn]
> >
> > Meh :) I'm not particularly fond of initial [v] -- though
> > in Klingon, the closest I'd get would also be vIlIp
> > (which happens to be its own SAMPA transcription).
>
> Ayeri lacks [f] for some strange aesthetic reason. Would you
> mind "Pilim" then?
I think that's slightly better.

> > My last name would probably be |yu'tIn| [ju?tIn], though
> > I'm also rather fond of the spelling pronunciation
> > |newton| [newton] due to its containing the
> > moderately-rare-in-the-natlangs-I-know diphthong [ew].
>
> ... which is actually pronounced [ju:] in Britain and just
> [u:] in the US. It's not a diphthong -- at least not to my
> Cherman-biast ears: ["nju:tn=].
I think you missed the point - I was talking about the Klingon word
|newton| which is pronounced [nEwton] and contains the diphthong [Ew]
(note square brackets indicating pronunciation). I confess I wrote [e]
when I believe the more common pronunciation of Klingon |e| is [E].

It's the diphthong in the first syllable of the Esperanto word for
Europe (Eŭropo), for example, but I think that even in Esperanto, [Ew]
(spelled |eŭ|) is uncommon. And off the top of my head, I can't think
of any other language that has [Ew], though perhaps Belarusian or
Polish does?

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
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