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Re: Name mangling (Was: Re: First Sound Recording of Asha'ille!)

From:Tristan McLeay <conlang@...>
Date:Saturday, March 12, 2005, 12:42
On 12 Mar 2005, at 10.55 pm, Philip Newton wrote:

> I think you missed the point - I was talking about the Klingon word > |newton| which is pronounced [nEwton] and contains the diphthong [Ew] > (note square brackets indicating pronunciation). I confess I wrote [e] > when I believe the more common pronunciation of Klingon |e| is [E]. > > It's the diphthong in the first syllable of the Esperanto word for > Europe (Eŭropo), for example, but I think that even in Esperanto, [Ew] > (spelled |eŭ|) is uncommon. And off the top of my head, I can't think > of any other language that has [Ew], though perhaps Belarusian or > Polish does?
I would've volunteered my own dialect of English as having [&w], with a starting point that's apparently very close to [E], but I'm informed that it's actually [&O] in Australian (for what's usually /au/ in other dialects). There must be some dialect with [&w] though, if it's close enough... And Cockney _bell_ is [bEw], isn't it? (Of course, for your surname, I say something more like [nju\:d@n] so maybe this is totally irrelevant.) I will, however, agree with your (original and perhaps incorrect?) statement that [ew] is a nice diphthong. -- Tristan.