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Re: Unknown pronoun

From:Remi Villatel <maxilys@...>
Date:Saturday, July 15, 2006, 1:08
Jim Henry wrote:
> On 7/11/06, Remi Villatel <maxilys@...> wrote: > >> I just "discovered" an interesting pronoun in the shaquean grammar: >> /yoç(a)/ [woCa] --where (a) is a case marking. > ....... >> So far, I call /yoça/ a singular anaphoric personal pronoun. It belongs >> to the closed class of substitutive (anaphoric/cataphoric) pronouns >> which also contains an impersonal substitutive pronoun. > > Does this imply you have some pronouns which > are not substitutive? How are they used?
Good question. :-D Well, that true that all pronouns are substitutive in some way but I call "substitutive" only the 2 ones of which this is the only purpose.
> In gzb (which is fairly minimalist lexically) > the same word is used for "pronoun" and > "substitution, replacement"; the postposition > for "instead of" is derived from the same root.
I have no native word for "pronoun" yet. I think I'll follow your lead and derive the word "substitute"... if you don't mind.
> I see you have both anaphoric and cataphoric > pronouns. gzb has a series of anaphoric
Apart /yoça/ which can only be anaphoric, Shaquelingua only has one pronoun which is cataphoric by default and becomes explicitly anaphoric or cataphoric thanks to a prefix. That's enough. There are already 29 shaquean pronouns... plus the deferential form of the 10 ways to say "you" (singular, dual and plural). Hmm... Plus one. There must be a deferential form of /yoça/ too!
> and cataphoric pronouns in the third person > for animates, inanimates, and abstract situations > or events; so far it has just one pronoun for > place, theoretically anaphoric but sometimes > cataphoric. I should probably add another > cataphoric place-pronoun for symmetry.
Or maybe not in order to have some irregularity. I just realized the reflexive and reciprocal pronouns (oneself and eachother) can also be either anaphoric or cataphoric without special derivation or prefix, depending on their place in the sentence. That's very irregular. ;-) /je söle çöröo tö'çka./ {je: sO4e COXO"o tO:'Cka] (We'll discuss again.) -- ================== Remi Villatel ==================