Re: CHAT reformed Gaelic

On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 10:57 PM, Stephen Mulraney wrote:

> Ray Brown wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 11:32 PM, Stephen Mulraney wrote:
>
>>> Indeed. I made a mock-up over a year ago, which can be see at
>>> http://ataltane.net/conlangs/sampla-ga.pdf
>>
>> I'll be visiting that site   :)
>
> There's not much more there except for out of date and incomplete details
> about semi-abandoned conlangs :).
Interesting, none the less.

> Also, I think so of the pages won't
> display properly in Internet Explorer (don't ask...!)
No probs - I use Mozilla   :)

IE doesn't seem to like of my web-pages either.

>> [snip]
>>
>>> Also you can see an (even less carefully thought out) example of
>>> *Russian*
>>>  written
>>> in *Irish* orthography at the following location... :)
>>>
>>> http://www.livejournal.com/users/ataltane/21573.html
>> >
>> Now that's even more interesting   :)
>
> It's quite a mess, to be honest; But I think it could be made
> consistent with a little work :)
Yep - it's at least fun seeing the slender-to-slender & broad-to-broad
rule being applied in Russian  :)

>> BTW I do disagree with JRRT over Gaelic - I find it one of the more
>> pleasant
>> sounding languages.
>
> Me too. Of course, impressions of a language's pleasant-soundingness
> often increase with exposure (as you become more familiar with the
> phoneme inventory, the allophonic range of each phoneme, etc), but
> I find Irish fantastically wonderful to listen to. My brief
> acquaintance with(Scottish) Gaelic suggests that it's even more
> attractive (I particularly like the pronunciation of |b d g| as
> [p t k], and |p t k| as something like [hp ht xk] when non-initial.
'sright - and when they're [p_h] [t_h] and [k_h]. Scots Gaelic doesn't
have voiced plosives only one set of unaspirated voiceless and another
of aspirated voiceless with the aspiration being either before or after
according to position.

> To my mind, it's a good example of what I might assume to be a much
> too far-reaching rule (what, no [b d g] in the interiors of words,
> ever?!), resulting in a very distinctive sound.
Yes, indeed.

Ray
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