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Re: Voiced Velar Fricative

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Friday, December 20, 2002, 18:35
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From: "John Cowan" <jcowan@...>

> Christophe Grandsire scripsit: > > > So German also has instances of the voiced uvular trill? I didn't know
that,
> > although it sounds logical to me, since in both languages the "r"
evolved from
> > a former alveolar trill, and the best way from an alveolar trill to an
uvular
> > fricative is through a stage of uvular trill. > > The uvular trill is the normative German pronunciation. In fact, however, > German final "r" these days is probably best described as a semivowel > based on [a], and final unstressed "-er", theoretically /@R/, is quite > like a short [a].
Yes. To a diminished degree, Received Standard (British) English does this with their final "r"s as well (with the hint of a schwa: there=/DE@/), whereas "r"s before consonants is completely gone, so much so that I've seen the singer's name Sade spelled in British English "shar-day" in order to express /Sa'de/, much to the confusion of Americans, some of whom told me that her name was pronounced "Shar DAY" with the retroflex "r." Sally Caves scaves@frontiernet.net Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo. "My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."