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Re: USAGE: pronouncing "l", "needs washed"

From:Irina Rempt <ira@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 8, 1999, 17:18
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, John Cowan wrote:

> Ed Heil wrote: > > > But the thing I don't get is that a few years ago, I first heard the > > construction, "that shirt needs washed" from my wife. (I would say, > > "that shirt needs to be washed," or "that shirt needs washing." To > > me, "washed" is not a nominal, and therefore cannot be used as the > > direct object of "needs," whereas "to be washed" and "washing" are > > both nominals.) > > This is characteristic of Western Pennsylvania, and may have spread, perhaps > under Mennonite influence, to the Midwest.
It's probably from Dutch or Low German if it occurs in Pennsylvania: "dat overhemd moet gewassen" (and not "... gewassen worden" which is correct but a bit over-emphatic for everyday use) is the usual way to say it in Dutch. Another data point from a non-native speaker who spent 18 months in Wiltshire, England: I say [wO:k] and [wOk] for "walk" and "wok" respectively. Irina -- Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. irina@rempt.xs4all.nl (myself) - http://valdyas.conlang.org (Valdyas) http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/irina/index.html (home)