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Re: USAGE: pronouncing "l", "needs washed"

From:Gerald Koenig <jlk@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 8, 1999, 3:31
> >My wife (an eastern Iowan by birth) pronounces the "l" in "walk" and >"talk." Sounds really weird to me. > >But the thing I don't get is that a few years ago, I first heard the >construction, "that shirt needs washed" from my wife. (I would say, >"that shirt needs to be washed," or "that shirt needs washing." To >me, "washed" is not a nominal, and therefore cannot be used as the >direct object of "needs," whereas "to be washed" and "washing" are >both nominals.) > >Now I'm noticing it in the speech of almost everyone I know from the >midwest. But I *never* heard it, growing up in Michigan.
Hi, Ed, No offense to your wife, but I never heard it in Milwaukee growing up, neither has my wife.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > edheil@postmark.net >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Nik Taylor wrote: >> nicole perrin wrote: >> > I noticed this in John's post too - I distinctly say /balm/, as well as >> > /kalm/ and /kwalm/ and /alms/, is this abnormal?
Nik:
>> >> A lot of l-consonant clusters, especially /lm/, tend to vary in whether >> or not /l/ is pronounced. I say both /almz/ and /amz/, as well as >> /kA(l)m/, /kwA(l)m/, and /bA(l)m/
Well that's a relief, because I waffle on calm and alms too. Jerry
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