Re: Introducing Bakoyu

En réponse à Christopher B Wright <faceloran@...>:

> <23 consonants b,p,v,f,th (as in THrough), z (sh), s,
> g, k, ch (Quichua “j” or German “baCH”), d, t, j (as
> in english Jack), c (english Chocolate), l, ll (Welsh,
> I think) r (english) rr (Spanish) h, m, n, y (english
> Yuck) and w (english Wagon).>
>
> For linguishtic notation, that's z /S/, ch /x/, c /tS/, j /dZ/, ll
> /h^l/
> or /h_l/,
And what notation are you using? Here the most used one is X-SAMPA, and it
marks the voiceless lateral fricative as /K/.

 rolled r seems to be a series of alveolar taps, but I'm not
> sure so I won't try,
The trilled r is X-SAMPA /r/, while the flap is /4/. The trill may sound like a
series of flaps, it's considered a separate sound, not a longer version of one
(indeed, since you can have trills where it's more difficult to have flaps,
like in the bilabial position).

 and y /j/. Final k is /?/ (the glottal stop; I'm
> not
> uncertain about it).
>
Correct!

> <kpigl, zsemoth>
>
> Looks like you have some unexpressed vowels in there.
Why? "kp" could be pronounced as coarticulated (both at the same time), which
is frequent in some African languages, or as a simple cluster without vowel in
between (I have no problem with that cluster). In the same way, I have
absolutely no problem pronouncing /Ss/ as a cluster, without even having a
vowel wanting to creep in...

Because as an English speaker there are some clusters you find difficult
doesn't mean that everyone finds them difficult. On the contrary, in some
languages they may be common!

And I know what Heather said about the subject, but my point still stands, even
if it doesn't apply to Bakoyu itself.

Christophe.

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