CHAT: idiot poets (wasRe: CHAT:"the future," sci-fi, Quecha (Le Guin)

In a message dated 07/02/2002 07.42.20 PM, Christopher Wright
(faceloran@JUNO.COM) writes:

>Perhaps it happened with all those poets likening time to an arrow.
>They're all bloody idiots (or clean idiots, or dirty but not bloody
>idiots. The point is, they are, or were, idiots).
    Which idiot poets, Christopher? Sounds like you are referring mainly to a
certain European/European-influenced strain of poet commonly called Romantic.
I doubt you will find time compared or linked to arrows in Japanese haiku
ferinstance...

    BTW a very good antidote to what "commonly" passes for poetry (the
neo-Romantic Hallmark greeting card kind that I do believe Christopher is
partly referring to):

    _Verse & Universe: Poems About Science and Mathematics_ edited by Kurt
Brown, Milkweed Editions, 1998, ISBN 1-57131-407-5

    And ya peeps will nary find such phrases like "time's arrow"
    - except, mayhaps, as scathing sarcasm or sardonic satire...

Hanuman Zhang

"the sloth is a chinese poet upsidedown" --- jack kerouac {1922-69}
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poet is most poetic when inventing languages. Hence the concept of the poet
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"La poésie est en jeu."             (Poetry is in play)
                - Blaise Cendrars

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