Re: Newbie...intro to my conlang
| From: | J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, December 12, 2003, 22:08 |
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In a message dated 2003:12:11 02:27:18 PM, christophe.grandsire@FREE.FR
writes:
>En réponse à Beau Didler :
>
>> if not Kerno/Brithenig as well, and I'm at a loss,
>>because I hadn't gone to much into creoles, so I only know that the sub-
>>strata language works to become like the superstratum, which in this case
>>is English and French\Narbonosc, respectively. I imagine there will be
>>heavy borrowing from Kerno/Brithening and any other languages in my IB
>>Lousianne. Any help and discussion about this would be helpful.
>
>Hanuman, where are you?! As Master Creolist of the list, you ought to speak
>up here :)) .
::blink-blink:: "Master Creolist" 0_o? ::big grin::
Ohboy!, this is a rather complicated issue and so I recommend
the following books:
- _Contact Languages: Pidgins and Creoles_ by Mark Sebba
(ISBN 0-312-17571-X)
- _Pidgins and Creoles: an introduction_ edited by Jacques Arends, Pieter
Muysken and Norval Smith (Europe ISBN 90-272-5237-8/US ISBN 1-55619-170-7)
Basically, creoles are highly stabilized pidgins with some form of
written orthography.
In a sense, creoles are literate 2nd generation pidgins ;)
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