Re: Subject / Object / ?

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> En réponse à Elliott Lash :
>
>
> >  I really think this depends on the school and the
> >state and the specific teacher. I hate the way the
> >Europeans on this list seem to think that ALL American
> >schools will be horrible, no matter what. Both my
> >Elimentary School, Middle School and High School
> >English classes spent time talking about Grammar. And
> >I knew about Subjects, Objects and all the essential
> >before I became a conlanger and a linguist. I'd
> >appreciate a little less broad generalizations.
> >
> >  Thank you.
>
> And I hate when people use their own personal experience to state: "it
> isn't that bad", when I've read various surveys proving that despite some
> exceptions due to the decentralised nature of the education in the US, in
> *average* the situation *is* bad, and it's not improving (it may not be
> getting worse, but it's not getting better).
>
> I *know* the education system in the US is decentralised. I *know* there
> are good schools in the US. But I also *know* that they are in the
> minority. I am *not* overgeneralising here. If you choose randomly a school
> in the US, you're more likely to find insufficient education rather than
> sufficient one (especially among public schools, and I believe because of
> lack of money rather than anything else). But it's true that if you find a
> good school, it's likely to be very good. But then, maybe I just have
> higher expectations regarding education that you all have.
>
> As for the overrepresentation of people coming from good US schools here,
> remember that conlangers are hardly a representative group.
>
> So, next time, before jumping at my throat, you may think a bit before (I'm
> not talking to Elliot alone here). I don't have the habit of talking about
> what I know nothing about. And I was just genuinely surprised by the
> question Rodlox asked, which should indicate that I had a higher opinion of
> the US education system*s* than you seem to think I have. But I must say
> it's just one more piece of circumstancial evidence that I got that proves
> that *in average*, the US education level in primary and secondary schools
> is not good enough.
WTF does this have to do with Conlanging?  I would very much appreciate
if this thread would be taken off-list.

If questions about LaTeX and conlanging are shouted off to a different list,
then surely America-bashing threads don't belong either.

Thank you,
Apollo

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