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Re: Classic, Normal, and Vulgar Lingo

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, January 21, 2000, 21:35
At 22:22 +0100 20.1.2000, Raymond Brown wrote:
>> >>Most people would've spoken a form somewhere on a continuum from Vulgar >>Latin to Classical Latin, > >Yes, indeed. I have argued much the same. And probably most of the Roman >aristos in the Classical period were pretty much trilingual - Vulgar Latin, >a sort of 'katharevousa' Latin, and Greek.
But there must have existed much the same continuum in Greek at the time -- indeed at all times after Alexander, I imagine! -- so that Plutachus and his servants spoke as differently as did Seneca and his servants. It is not improbable that a person like Caesar could travel along a diglossic continuum in both languages(*), or would you disagree, Ray? (*) Indeed I believe to have come across the phrase "bene doctus uterque lingua" somewhere -- probably Seneca writing to Lucilius, since that is the only prose I read where something like that would have been likely to occur. I may have read its Swedish/German/English equivalent in some modern text and translated it mentally on the fly. BTW I once listened to a lecture on Byzantine historians. Among their fovorite complaints against militarist-become-Emperors was that they could not speak correct Greek -- or "Rhomaika katholika" as the phrase goes! :-) --, and yet these purple-clad sword-rattlers were generally blue-blooded natives of Constantinople. It is a much later period, of course!
> > >"Hadvantages" 'Arry used to say whenever he wanted to say "advantages", and >"ambush" became "hambush". He thought he'd >spoken marvellously if he said "hambush" as powerfully as he could. >
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