Re: USAGE: [CONLANG] A discourse on Phonemics (was:

John:
> And Rosta scripsit:
> >
> > John Cowan:
> > > And Rosta scripsit:
> > >
> > > > I've been trying to stay out of these accents of English threads -- too
> > > > addictive -- but here I shall lapse and point out that AusE has low
> > > > back vowels in _hot_ and _gone_, [hQt] and, for some speakers, at
> > > > least (as previously discussed on this list) [gQ:n].
> > >
> > > But anomalously so, like /RQT/ for "wrath".  For me, /Q/ is one
> of the most
> > > reliable markers of Not-My-Accent.
>
> My error here: I should have been using square brackets, not slashes.
>
> > I don't understand. Even if AusE has /Q/ in "wrath", it still has a low
> > back vowel phoneme, and anyway, where is the anomaly.
>
> Actually my point was that the phone [Q] appears in only a few words
> in AusE, so it is still fair to say (phonemic analysis aside) that
> it has no low back vowel phones.
But [Q] or something close to it is the realization of /Q/, which
occurs in many words, those spelt with <o> where AmE has /A/ or
/o/.

--And.