Re: USAGE: [CONLANG] A discourse on Phonemics (was:

John Cowan wrote:

>Tristan scripsit:
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>>Since when? Short /Q/s are all [Q]s, aren't they? /wQt/ else is the
>>vowel in /nQt/ supposed to be?
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>My understanding is that that vowel is /O/, rather higher than /Q/,
>as also in Canada and RP.
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Well, it's definately different from /O/, remember: gone /gQ:n/ and born
/bO:n/ (and lawn /lO:n/) don't rhyme. It's certainly less rounded and
I'm pretty sure (but could be wrong) that it's also lower (the
articulation within the mouth feels different in a similar way to the
diff. between /O:/ and /u:/).

Tristan