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Re: Presenting Mayuc: phonlogy question

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...>
Date:Monday, October 15, 2007, 7:14
Mark J. Reed skrev:
 > First, my latest project has a name! Yay! It's Mayuc
 > ['maj.juk], which started out as a name for note-jotting
 > via the acronym My As-Yet Unnamed Conlang, but I decided I
 > liked it.

So your next lang will be _Moyuc_ (My Other Yet Unnamed
Conlang :-) Actually it could be a sister lang, and you got
the first divergent sound change right there: stressed */A/
becomes /a/ in Mayuc and /O/ in Moyuc...

I learned the other day that both Slovenes and Slovaks call
their own language _slovensko_. At one time when the
Slovenian prime minister visited Rumania they played the
Slovak national anthem, or maybe it was the other way
around! :-) As it happens the Slovak term for 'Slovenian'
is _slovinsko_, and the Slovenian term for 'Slovak' is
_slovaška_. IMHO it would be in their own best interest in
these EU days to make a treaty and adopt each other's terms,
but it seems national feeling isn't that practical.

 > Second, a question. That [-k] is the realization of a
 > phoneme whose value depends on the preceding vowel. It's
 > [t] after front vowels,
 > [k] after back vowels, and [?] after [a].
 > So my questions are: (1) is there ANADEW? I'm thinking
 > maybe the Gaelic langs, but I don't know much about
 > them... and (2) how do you think I should represent it in
 > transcription?

I don't know, but I like it! At last an honest
job for _c_! ;-)

Anyway I don't think it's unrealistic: (1) k > ? / _# isn't
all that uncommon -- it happened in languages as diverse as
Malay and Finnish --, (2) k > c > t in palatal environment
seems realistic enough (3) palatalization of velars
following a front vowel does occur -- the third
palatalization in Slavic comes to mind, although there the
outcome was coronal affricates.

AFMOC Kidilib merges velars and coronals before /i/. The
spelling is with the coronal letters _t d s_ but the
realization is alveopalatal [ts\ dz\ s\].  Thus the
Kidilib word word for 'Kidilib' is _Tidilib_.  As it happens
the 'pure' Classical Sohlob form would be _*Kejeleb_.

/BP 8^)>
Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se
   "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient
   à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil
   ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*,
   c'est qu'elles meurent."           (Victor Hugo)