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Re: A Finnish descendant

From:Tristan Mc Leay <kesuari@...>
Date:Monday, July 19, 2004, 14:46
Philip Newton wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:04:31 -0400, Trebor Jung <treborjung@...> wrote: > >>Anyone have suggestions of how I could mutate Finnish into something new? >>Reducing diphthongs is IMHO a good starting point, but I'm not r'ly sure >>what those diphthongs could turn into... > > > One thing off the top of my head is yö -> ö, and uo -> ö as well for > good measure. Who needs pesky vowel harmony anyway. Then ei -> e: -> > e, and äi -> ä: -> ä -> a.
I think more realism on the uo -> ö front could be obtained if we send u/uu forward (having ridded ourselves of pesky sounds like y by unrounding them), then simplify uo into uu. I'm not sure which, if any, of these diphthongs are actually in Finnish, but my proposal is: Finnish Afterfinnish Suomi Suumi i i y i e e ö e ä e and a at random ii ee < ei < @i yy ee < ei < @i < ii ee ii öö ee ää a u y o u a o uu yy oo uu aa oo ie ii ei ee yö yy äi ee ai aa uo uu au oo ou uu (The obvious pattern with the diphthongs is that the simplify on the first element. The obvious pattern with backstuff is rounding and rotating on (w/redundant rounding, à la Svenska). The obvious pattern with front long unrounded vowels is moving up, except where such an action is prohibited by insufficient space in the mouth, when diphthongisation ensues.) For best results, you may need to add a little /a/ and stir, most languages have some sort of low unrounded vowel but I seem to have gravitated away from them. (Colonial Englishes gravitated away too, but American invented one from a perfectly decent /Q/, whereas Australian English transformed the unspeakably horrid and silly /V/ into one. English from England I think started to gravitate away, but more recently has apparently decided that [&] really isn't that great a sound, anyway.) Speakers of Afterfinnish will obviously be stereotyped by speakers of Finnish as pronouncing all vowels as essentially /e/, with good reason. Speakers of Afterfinnish will no doubt stereotype speakers of Finnish as having lax jaws, what with all those diphthongs. -- | Tristan. | To be nobody-but-yourself in a world | kesuari@yahoo!.com.au | which is doing its best to, night and day, | | to make you everybody else--- | | means to fight the hardest battle | | which any human being can fight; | | and never stop fighting. | | --- E. E. Cummings, "A Miscellany" | | | | In the fight between you and the world, | | back the world. | | --- Franz Kafka, | | "RS's 1974 Expectation of Days"