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Re: Antipassives

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, July 17, 2003, 14:21
En réponse à Ian Spackman :

>How common are antipassives? > >I'm sure I once read (whether it's true or false) that passives approach >universality (presumably in nominative languages). Is this true?
If you mean that nominative languages always have a passive voice, it may be a an exaggerated claim, but it's true that I don't know of any nominative language without a passive voice (even Japanese as one). But I'm pretty sure you can find examples (Mandarin maybe?).
> Does the >same hold for antipassives in ergative languages?
No, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure Euskara has no antipassive voice, and I don't think it's that common in ergative languages.
>The reason I ask is that I don't have an antipassive in Holic, and nor do I >see a likely way to construct one. Any former antipassive would have been >lost in the Old Holic period, and I can't see how a replacement would have >arisen. So the question is, is this a problem?
Not in my opinion. If Basque speakers can live without an antipassive, so should Holic speakers be able to ;))) .
>Or, I suppose: is there a reason that (anti)passives are especially useful >that hasn't occurred to me?
The same reasons passives are useful: leave something unspecified, put something in topic, make syntactic agreement possible (the nice syntactic ergativity our Gray Wizard likes so much ;)))) ), etc... Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Ian Spackman <ianspackman@...>
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
BP Jonsson <bpj@...>