Re: C-IPA
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Friday, February 28, 2003, 16:44 |
En réponse à Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>:
> >
> > Hehe, my brain will find patterns everywhere, and make them if there
> > aren't :)) . That's called "scientific mind" ;))))) .
>
> Nope, seeing patterns where there aren't any is known as
> "self-delusion". :-)
>
Ever heard of the word "synonyms"? ;)))))))))
>
> It just occured to me that you shouldn't use the pipe as a diacritic at
> all,
> since it looks like the IPA sign for a dental click.
>
Very true, but I cannot find a better idea for a "stop" diacritic, and ! is
definitely better for clicks than for stops. But if you have a better idea for
a "stop" diacritic among the non-letter characters available in ASCII, I'd be
happy to change that. That's why I said it was only a beta version :))) .
>
> I think I confused 'em. But had I been thinking clearly I'd've meant
> the
> voiceless alveolar lateral fricative sign.
>
"Belted l" thus :) .
>
> I don't know LaTeX, but I think I'm following. And incidentially, I find
> [l\]
> good mnemonically (as soon as you've internalized "\"=fricative).
>
True enough. It's the whole point of C-IPA. Once you've internalised the value
of the letters and of the C-IPA diacritics (and the rules), the combinations
make sense immediately :) .
By the way, I actually made a mistake. Since l is normally taken to be voiced,
l\ can only be the *voiced* lateral fricative. To form the voiceless one, you
have to add the "voiceless" sign 0. Since C-IPA diacritics are commutative,
both l0\ and l\0 are allowed. I think it's the reason why I want to put a
definition '$ := l0\', to get a single character for it instead of three.
Christophe.
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