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Re: C-IPA

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, February 28, 2003, 16:44
En réponse à Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>:

> > > > Hehe, my brain will find patterns everywhere, and make them if there > > aren't :)) . That's called "scientific mind" ;))))) . > > Nope, seeing patterns where there aren't any is known as > "self-delusion". :-) >
Ever heard of the word "synonyms"? ;)))))))))
> > It just occured to me that you shouldn't use the pipe as a diacritic at > all, > since it looks like the IPA sign for a dental click. >
Very true, but I cannot find a better idea for a "stop" diacritic, and ! is definitely better for clicks than for stops. But if you have a better idea for a "stop" diacritic among the non-letter characters available in ASCII, I'd be happy to change that. That's why I said it was only a beta version :))) .
> > I think I confused 'em. But had I been thinking clearly I'd've meant > the > voiceless alveolar lateral fricative sign. >
"Belted l" thus :) .
> > I don't know LaTeX, but I think I'm following. And incidentially, I find > [l\] > good mnemonically (as soon as you've internalized "\"=fricative). >
True enough. It's the whole point of C-IPA. Once you've internalised the value of the letters and of the C-IPA diacritics (and the rules), the combinations make sense immediately :) . By the way, I actually made a mistake. Since l is normally taken to be voiced, l\ can only be the *voiced* lateral fricative. To form the voiceless one, you have to add the "voiceless" sign 0. Since C-IPA diacritics are commutative, both l0\ and l\0 are allowed. I think it's the reason why I want to put a definition '$ := l0\', to get a single character for it instead of three. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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