Re: C-IPA

Quoting Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>:
> > Then this'd be one of life's little reminders that no two people's
> > brains are
> > wired the same way. My brain resolutely treats (non-diacritic'd) IPA
> as
> > entirely
> > non-modular.
> >
>
> Hehe, my brain will find patterns everywhere, and make them if there
> aren't :)) . That's called "scientific mind" ;))))) .
Nope, seeing patterns where there aren't any is known as "self-delusion". :-)

> > IMHO, the click marker is a good mnemonic, the rest, well, aren't, but
> I
> > don't
> > know what you could more profitably use.
> >
>
> Hehe, you see my problem. < is kind of a mnemonic since it gives the
> idea that
> the thing is more "open", but that's about it.
It just occured to me that you shouldn't use the pipe as a diacritic at all,
since it looks like the IPA sign for a dental click.

> > Remind me; is the pound/libra sign "£" ASCII-friendly?
>
> Unfortunately not. The creators of ASCII were decidedly American ;)))
> .
>
>  If it is, it'd
> > could be
> > used for IPA's l-with-a-tilde-thru'-the-middle.
> >
>
> Velarised l you mean? Or do you mean the belted l? (the voiceless
> alveolar
> lateral fricative)
I think I confused 'em. But had I been thinking clearly I'd've meant the
voiceless alveolar lateral fricative sign.

>In the first case, the tilde through is treated as
> a
> diacritic by the IPA, and thus will receive a ^something form. But as I
> said,
> since modularity is built in C-IPA, nothing forbids someone to introduce
> a
> 5:=whatever it will be to assign 5 (currently assigned to nothing) to
> the l-
> with-a-tilde-through-the-middle (yep, for "user-defined" symbols, simply
> list
> then first with the assignment operator :=. It makes for a nice
> shortcut). As
> for the lateral fricative, it is indiscriminately rendered by l{ (That's
> a case
> where the purely geometric definition doesn't exactly work, since on the
> chart
> the approximants separate the lateral approximants from the lateral
> fricatives,
> but it makes sense to keep the laterals together, and my description
> of "changing one property of a character at a time" works well here") or
> l\
> (since it's a fricative too, if lateral). I'm thinking of using $ for it
> too.
> It looks a little like a S with a l through it, and thus has a nice
> mnemonic
> for it. But it's not part of the C-IPA basis. Rather, it's along with T,
> D, S,
> Z, etc... the "plain" form of C-IPA. Those who know how TeX works
> understand
> exactly what I mean ;))) . T, D, etc... are like all the user-defined
> characters rendered through := : "macros" ;))) .
>
> OK, I may be a little unclear here. Do you understand what I mean?
I don't know LaTeX, but I think I'm following. And incidentially, I find [l\]
good mnemonically (as soon as you've internalized "\"=fricative).

                                                         Andreas

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