Re: C-IPA

En réponse à Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>:

>
> OK. The answer to my question is then; look up what a voiceless dental
> sibilant
> fricative is in the IPA, then transliterate (which incidentally lands us
> on
> [s^[]).
>
Exactly. One of the hidden (well, not anymore after this sentence ;)) ) agenda
of C-IPA is to make people learn the real IPA ;)) .

>
> Then this'd be one of life's little reminders that no two people's
> brains are
> wired the same way. My brain resolutely treats (non-diacritic'd) IPA as
> entirely
> non-modular.
>
Hehe, my brain will find patterns everywhere, and make them if there
aren't :)) . That's called "scientific mind" ;))))) .

>
> IMHO, the click marker is a good mnemonic, the rest, well, aren't, but I
> don't
> know what you could more profitably use.
>
Hehe, you see my problem. < is kind of a mnemonic since it gives the idea that
the thing is more "open", but that's about it.

> Remind me; is the pound/libra sign "£" ASCII-friendly?
Unfortunately not. The creators of ASCII were decidedly American ;))) .

 If it is, it'd
> could be
> used for IPA's l-with-a-tilde-thru'-the-middle.
>
Velarised l you mean? Or do you mean the belted l? (the voiceless alveolar
lateral fricative) In the first case, the tilde through is treated as a
diacritic by the IPA, and thus will receive a ^something form. But as I said,
since modularity is built in C-IPA, nothing forbids someone to introduce a
5:=whatever it will be to assign 5 (currently assigned to nothing) to the l-
with-a-tilde-through-the-middle (yep, for "user-defined" symbols, simply list
then first with the assignment operator :=. It makes for a nice shortcut). As
for the lateral fricative, it is indiscriminately rendered by l{ (That's a case
where the purely geometric definition doesn't exactly work, since on the chart
the approximants separate the lateral approximants from the lateral fricatives,
but it makes sense to keep the laterals together, and my description
of "changing one property of a character at a time" works well here") or l\
(since it's a fricative too, if lateral). I'm thinking of using $ for it too.
It looks a little like a S with a l through it, and thus has a nice mnemonic
for it. But it's not part of the C-IPA basis. Rather, it's along with T, D, S,
Z, etc... the "plain" form of C-IPA. Those who know how TeX works understand
exactly what I mean ;))) . T, D, etc... are like all the user-defined
characters rendered through := : "macros" ;))) .

OK, I may be a little unclear here. Do you understand what I mean?

Christophe.

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