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Re: Ergative and other questions

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 9:27
"Mark J. Reed" wrote:
> In absolutive/ergative languages, things are carved up differently. > The subject and object of the sentence "I won the race" are still > in different cases, but the *subject* of the sentence "I won" is in the > same case as the *object* of the sentence "I won the race". > This case is called the the "absolutive", and it is used for the > *object* of *transitive* verbs and the *subject* of *intransitive* or > *reflexive* verbs. The other case, used only for the subject of > transitive verbs, is called the "ergative".
To simplify, using English examples, imagine if English used the following forms: I saw her/She saw me Her fell That is, the same form, "her" is used for the object of a transitive verb, like "see" and for the subject of an intransitive verb, like "fall", and another form (she) for the subject of a transitive verb -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42