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Re: CHAT: iron worlds (CHAT: Being both theologically correct etc

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 21:58
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:22:03PM +0000, Raymond Brown wrote:
> At 3:19 pm -0400 14/5/01, Andreas Johansson wrote: > >Raymond Brown wrote: > >>Here it [=iron] is /aI@n/ or /aI@_r/ in England, /aI@rn/ in Wales (except > >>the > >>coastal region of the S.E. where its /ajj@n/, the /j/ being a true > >>consonant), and /aIr@n/ in Scotland. Note: /r/ in Wales & Scotland is > >>trilled. > > > >Is "_r" in "/aI@_r/" supposed to indicate rhoticity? > > Sorry - I should've written /aI@`n/, i.e. a retroflex mid, central vowed. > > Retroflex vowels are common in both the urban & rural speech of the south > west and are common in the rural dialects of the midlands. (They were once > common in the rural speech of the south-east also, but the effect of London > has been too great and the south-east is now lmost entirely 'non-rhotic')
So retroflexion is the same as rhoticity? -- Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo

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Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>rhotic retroflexion (was: CHAT: iron worlds (etc..