Re: Most common irregular verbs?
From: | caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 2:14 |
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Henrik Theiling <theiling@A...>
wrote:
Hi!
>You means 'the year ago' is analysed to be a good noun phrase?!
"The year ago" is not standard English. One would say "a year
ago." Think of "ago" as synonymous to "past" or "gone by."
>'The year ago was a good year.'
If you mean year 2005, I would say, "last year was a good year."
If you mean year 2004, I would say, "the year before last was a good
year" or "a year ago we had (was) a good year."
>'A year ago happens before the current year.' ??
Yes, it does. A year ago is the year before the present one.
>But adverbs (or adverbials) are often formed by adpostion + noun.
>So that's quite a good reason to call it a postpostion.
To me it doesn't follow that, just because an adverbial can indeed
be formed by an adposition and noun, "ago" must be called a
postposition because it follows a noun. The subject under
discussion was postposed adjectives. It seems that adjectives also
can follow nouns.
>It is perceived very postpositional to me. An English phrase that
>goes 'X ago' is translated into German as 'vor X' -- the
>correspondence is almost perfect. And as an ago-phrase is used as
>an adverbial, I'd strongly consider to be 'ago' to be
>postpositional, no?
By that reasoning it could also be a verb since, in Spanish the
expression uses "hace," literally "it makes": hace dos semanas, two
weeks ago. The correspondence is almost perfect.
>What's the justification to call it an adjective here?
My justification is, as usual, the entry in the American Heritage
Dictionary.
The Columbia Guide to Standard American English: "_Ago_ is both
adjective, as in _The murder took place many years ago,_ and adverb,
as in _The murder took place long ago._ It is Standard in both
uses."
Charlie
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