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Re: Most common irregular verbs?

From:caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 2:14
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Henrik Theiling <theiling@A...>
wrote:

Hi!

>You means 'the year ago' is analysed to be a good noun phrase?!
"The year ago" is not standard English. One would say "a year ago." Think of "ago" as synonymous to "past" or "gone by."
>'The year ago was a good year.'
If you mean year 2005, I would say, "last year was a good year." If you mean year 2004, I would say, "the year before last was a good year" or "a year ago we had (was) a good year."
>'A year ago happens before the current year.' ??
Yes, it does. A year ago is the year before the present one.
>But adverbs (or adverbials) are often formed by adpostion + noun. >So that's quite a good reason to call it a postpostion.
To me it doesn't follow that, just because an adverbial can indeed be formed by an adposition and noun, "ago" must be called a postposition because it follows a noun. The subject under discussion was postposed adjectives. It seems that adjectives also can follow nouns.
>It is perceived very postpositional to me. An English phrase that >goes 'X ago' is translated into German as 'vor X' -- the >correspondence is almost perfect. And as an ago-phrase is used as >an adverbial, I'd strongly consider to be 'ago' to be >postpositional, no?
By that reasoning it could also be a verb since, in Spanish the expression uses "hace," literally "it makes": hace dos semanas, two weeks ago. The correspondence is almost perfect.
>What's the justification to call it an adjective here?
My justification is, as usual, the entry in the American Heritage Dictionary. The Columbia Guide to Standard American English: "_Ago_ is both adjective, as in _The murder took place many years ago,_ and adverb, as in _The murder took place long ago._ It is Standard in both uses." Charlie http://wiki.frath.net/user:caeruleancentaur

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