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Re: Bilabial / labiodental distinction

From:wayne chevrier <wachevrier@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 16:49
Christopher B Wright nevesht:
> >IPA and X-SAMPA don't give any values for labiodental plosives. However, >they (the l.d.p.'s) would seem to be pronounceable. Since they don't have >special values, should I conclude that they just don't sound different >than their bilabial equivalents? Or is it that the sounds don't appear in >natlangs?
Doakes(sp?) invented symbols for these in the '20s, the voiceless resembles a q-p ligature, the voiced a d-b one. This informaton came from the _The_Phonetic_Symbol_Guide_ 2nd edition, (one the authors is Pullum I forget the other). It includes all symbols(including diacritics),& meanings, used by more than one author, or in important works.(The only real problem I noticed was the old IPA charcter for /z_w/ or /T_w/ is described as 'p with left hook' or 'o with reversed ogonek' when it should be 'inverted delta' -Wayne Chevrier _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx