Re: comment: four-participants (on-topic, even! but long)
|From:||Muke Tever <alrivera@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, July 11, 2002, 12:30|
Doug Dee wrote:
>>>> Well, I was reading more of Describing Morphosyntax, and I'm almost sureI
>>>> read a bit about a language grammaticalizing "contrary to expectations"and
>>>> "according to expectations" as verbal inflections, and not just verbs on
>>>> their own.
>>>>But now I can't find it. I thought I saw it near the section on miratives,
>>>>but it appears to have vanished entirely.
>>>It's on page 255, in section 9.6:
>>>". . . in many languages there is a distinction between the expression of
>>>information that is surprising versus that which is unsurprising or
>>No, that's not the bit I remember... I read, appended to an example,something
>>like what I wrote, but it had the name of the language that did it, and itmay
>>have listed the actual morphemes.
>It goes on past where I quoted (I got tired of typing) and gives
>examples of the actual forms from Turkish, Lhasa Tibetan, and Panare.
>Perhaps that's what you were thinking of after all?
No, I did go look at it. The words "contrary to expectations" and "according
expectations" were explicitly in what I remember (and are not, apparently, to
found anywhere in the text--contrary to expectations!!) :\ Actually what I
wanted is closer to the "counter-presuppositional focus" with the Aghem
(10.1.1 p. 273)... But as the only example there uses word order and not a
morpheme, I'm guessing I didn't actually see what it is I've been looking for.