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Re: Common Orcish Article (Long) - was Re: tolkien?

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, December 15, 2003, 19:22
Quoting Roger Mills <romilly@...>:

> Andreas Johansson wrote: > (Yargish, as it happens, does have > > a pair of labiodental fricatives; unlike the normal situation in human > speech, > > they are typically pronounced with the lower teeth against the upper lip.) > > > GMTA!!!
I'm unfamiliar with that acronym, unfortunataly.
> That's how /f/ and /v/ are supposed to be pronounced in Kash; I > guess they have a under-bite......but alternatively they can be bilabial > (mainly for my benefit, so I don't dislocate my jaw.)
The Yargish, like any dice gods-fearing RPG/RTS Orcs, have massive lower jaws and hefty underbites, whence the "reversed" labiodentals (is there any ready- made terms to refer to the two kinds of labiodentals?). Myself, I do not, and so substitute "normal" labiodentals. It's not like any human could pronounce Yargish with a perfect accent anyway; our oral cavities are not of quite the right shape, simply. I also tend to "cheat" with /J/ and /M/, substituting [n_dj] and [u], but that's just laziness. (For Meghean, I'm assuming the Elves' oral cavities are within the human range of variation. Near as I can tell, about the only oddity about its phonology is that it has mid-high vowels, but no mid-low ones, which apparently defies a universal or two.) Andreas

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