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Re: substantive and noun

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Thursday, September 19, 2002, 7:19
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> >En réponse à Muke Tever <mktvr@...>: > > > > > Huh! That is the opposite of what I learned. I learned that > > "substantive" is > > the subset of "noun": > > > > noun (L nomen, = name) substantive: > > what we normally call nouns > > noun adjective: > > what we normally call adjectives > > noun > > substantives & adjectives together. > > > >Once again a result of the strange terminology used by English-speaking >countries. Internationally (it's the definition I learnt), the noun is a >subset >of the substantive, not the other way round, and while noun and adjective >can >be opposed, substantive put them together, and adds the pronouns to the >mix. > >It's very common for instance to use the term substantive to refer to both >nouns and adjectives in languages which don't separate them formally.
In Swedish we use _substantiv_ for "noun" and _adjektiv_ for "adjective". I've sometimes seen _nomen_ too - AFAICT it's entirely synonymous with _substantiv_ (perhaps one of the list's Swedes with a linguistics education can tell for sure). Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.