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Re: How to do "But/However"

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Thursday, March 16, 2006, 8:07
Eldin Raigmore wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:04:59 +0100, taliesin the storyteller <taliesin- > conlang@NVG.ORG> wrote:
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>>3. Searching for but/however is rather pointless, so is there a >> good linguistic term? > > > Well, the Latin for "but" is "sed"; how about "sedative"?
They were known as _adversatives_ (or, more fully, 'adversative conjunctions') when I was at school. Even now, 50 years later, I find in the on-line Merriam-Webster: the _adversative_ conjunction _but_ Also "sed" is only one of _eight_ Latin words for 'but' (unless _uerum_ & _uero_ are considered variants of the same word, then we have only seven adversatives): (a) Conjunctions that are placed first in clause SED Used in particular to show a change in subject or topic; breaking off conversation and moving to something different; after negatives, used to limit the negation; also in the construct "non modo"...."sed etiam" (and its variants) = 'not only'...'but also'... AT Adding a qualified difference - but yet. May also be used to begin a new narrative; to show something wonderful or unexpected. Could also be used to show an objection to something already asserted. ATQUI A much stronger adversative than _at_ - but anyhow, nevertheless. "I hear what you say, BUT........". Also used with _si_ (if) to mark adversative suppositions: atqui si = but if..... CETERVM but for the rest, but yet - moving to another topic (b) Usually placed second in clause, but sometimes placed first. TAMEN nevertheless, however, for all that. Often combined with other adversatives, e.g. sed tame, attamen, uerumtamen. (c) Conjunctions that are placed second in clause AVTEM but, on the contrary, on the other hand. VERVM "strongly corroborative adversative particle" - but in truth, but notwithstanding, BUT VERO but in truth, but in fact..... -- Ray ================================== ray@carolandray.plus.com http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== MAKE POVERTY HISTORY