Re: CHAT: Law of ten times worse natlangs

Quoting Roger Mills <romilly@...>:

> Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
>
> > I dunno if we ever made an official name for the law that says that
> for
> any
> > feature you can think up for a conlang, no matter how freaky, there is
> at
> > least one natlang that's already doing it, except ten times worse. If
> not,
> we
> > should give it a shortish name for easy reference.
> >
> How about "Johansson's (First?) Law" or "...Law of 10"?
Seeing the thread spawned this far, it appears to be getting many names ...

> > Anyway, I just realized that Telenzh has ended up with a pretty scary
> set
> of
> > voiceless affricates; bilabial, dental, alveolar, postalveolar and
> velar.
> To
> > this comes alveolar and postalveolar voiced ones. Anyone know of a
> natlang
> > with this many, or even more affricates?
> >
> Aside from the dental one ([tT]?) it looks quite normal IMO; German and
> its
> dialects comes close, for the voicless series at least.
The dental one is [tT] yes. I could, of course, collapse it with /ts/, but, to
my ears at least, [tT] and [ts] don't sound much alike; certainly not more than
does [ts] and [tS].


                                                         Andreas