Re: Fricative Nasal Aspiration (was: Re: IPA griefs)

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, H. S. Teoh wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:18:08PM +0200, Kristian Jensen wrote:
> [snip]
> > If you guys want to acheive an orally aspirated fricative, then what you
> [snip suggestions]
>
> Hmm, interesting. I tried pronouncing an aspirated [s], and it came out
> like an [s] followed immediately by a [h]. It didn't sound very much
> different, at least to my ears (probably because [s] and [s<h>] are
> allophonic to me), but I did the "paper test" and the paper flapped, so it
> *was* an aspirated fricative. :-)
> What I did was simply to pronounce an [s] but give it an extra puff of air
> toward the end of the frication (almost like pronouncing "s-hha", where
> the "hh" is almost like an ejective. For me, this works with aspirating
> [f], [s], [C] and [T]. [x] seems to sound a bit too much like [h].
I can do aspirated /s/, /p/, /k/, /t/ and what _The Korean Alphabet_
claims is /c/, mainly because aspiration is *not* allophonic in Korean.
The difference between /sata/ and /s<h>ata/ is difficult, I find, for
most English-speakers to hear, but one is "to buy" and the other is
"cheap."  <G>

I can't really aspirate the voiced things with any reliability--they tend
to turn into the unvoiced versions.

YHL