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Re: Idiolect Sound Change, or Broader Usage? n# > m#

From:Thomas Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 5:00
David Peterson wrote:
> Hate to tell you this, but a friend of mine in the linguistics > department down here, born and bred in Texas, has this sound > change, and it's allegedly a common feature of Texas English. > I can't comment on the specifics--he just told me about it the > other day--but the word "button" was mentioned specifically.
Many things are alleged about Texans, but only some of them are true. I lived there for the first 22 years of my life, and can assure you that it is not remotely as common as you suggest it is. What *is* marginally common is the complete deletion of nasals in some syllable-final environments, while leaving behind nasalized vowels. I associate this particularly with parts of East Texas and the Gulf Coast, which if true may result from Cajun French influence as a kind of substrate. Of course, most Texans do say "y'all", but that is only because that is the second-person plural pronoun of choice for all Right Thinking People. 8P Patrick Littel wrote:
> Someone who speaks Portuguese might be able to comment. Consider the > alternation "homem" ~ "homens", in which the word-final /n/ in *homen > becomes [m] (I dunno whether synchronically or diachronically.)
I don't speak Portuguese, but I wrote a bookreview about a survey of Portuguese phonology about a year ago. I don't think you can read much into the spelling of word-final <m> like that, since it is one of the (purely orthographic) ways to indicate nasalization on a preceding vowel, along with the tilde, and <n> generally isn't, IIRC. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637