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From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, January 17, 2002, 2:38
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:22:04 -0500, Sally Caves <scaves@...>

>LOL! And so Tolkien doesn't borrow, doesn't MAKE his words from any >real world sources, my foot! And I imagine that gul is "ghoul." < Arabic >_ghul_, BTW.
I wouldn't be surprised. It's possible that this and other similarities (Sindarin "nar"/"naur" = fire, also from Arabic) are chance resemblances, but I think there are too many to be entirely coincidental. I knew enough Russian when I read "Haloisi Velike" on the drawing of the "World Ship" in the first Book of Lost Tales to recognize "velike" as having a Slavic origin ("haloisi velike" is translated as "the great sea", and "velikij" is the Russian word for "great", although presumably Tolkien's "velike" would have been stressed on the first syllable instead of the second). Incidentally, the Ludiréo word for "fire" is "naar", from Arabic (or so it's listed in the vocabulary), but the real reason I picked this word is that it's used in Sindarin. -- languages of Azir------> ---<>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin


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