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Re: ANNOUNCE: First longer sentence in S7

From:Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
Date:Saturday, April 3, 2004, 6:36
I didnt't analyze the whole thing, but I'm afraid I
have to disagree about your translation of "Once upon
a time". As I said in a former message, this is a
conventional, frozen expression, and it doesn't really
mean "very very long ago, yet unknown when", as you
suggest, but "what follows is a fiction, a tale, it
didn't really happen, but we shall pretend it did"
(like when children play).

In Russian tales you have similar expressions. See the
beginning of the Tale of Ivan-Tsarevich, the Firebird
and the Grey Wolf:
"V nekotorom tsarstve, v nekotorom gosudarstve,
jil-byl tsar' Demjan." (In a certain kingdom, in a
certain country, lived-was the Tsar Demjan.) Such a
form introduces without ambiguity a tale. It doesn't
mean "we don't know exactly what country", but: this
is about a fictional country". Sometimes it looks like
: "in a country beyond the seven seas", or "beyond
thirty kingdoms", and so on.

I'll try to look closer at your semantic
interpretation of the original sentence, because I
find it very interesting.

--- Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Hi! > > I'd proudly like to announce that I just finished > the translation of a > longer sentence in S7. It is the first sentence of > 'The Northwind and > the Sun'. Sorry for repeatedly translating the same > texts... > > In case you are interested, the following webpage > shows the S7 IPA-like > text, smooth translation, close translation, and > interlinears: > > http://www.theiling.de/projects/s7/s_06.html#s_06_01 > > Enjoy! > > I think I urgently need some cold beverage now and > maybe some food (I > forgot the time again). > > Bye, > Henrik > > PS: I decided against an ASCIIfied version of IPA on > my webpage, > because S7 phonetics renders that almost totally > unreadable. > So to view the page correctly, I'd probably need > a Unicode > capable browser with IPA fonts.
===== Philippe Caquant "High thoughts must have high language." (Aristophanes, Frogs) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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