Re: ANNOUNCE: First longer sentence in S7
From: | Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> |
Date: | Saturday, April 3, 2004, 6:36 |
I didnt't analyze the whole thing, but I'm afraid I
have to disagree about your translation of "Once upon
a time". As I said in a former message, this is a
conventional, frozen expression, and it doesn't really
mean "very very long ago, yet unknown when", as you
suggest, but "what follows is a fiction, a tale, it
didn't really happen, but we shall pretend it did"
(like when children play).
In Russian tales you have similar expressions. See the
beginning of the Tale of Ivan-Tsarevich, the Firebird
and the Grey Wolf:
"V nekotorom tsarstve, v nekotorom gosudarstve,
jil-byl tsar' Demjan." (In a certain kingdom, in a
certain country, lived-was the Tsar Demjan.) Such a
form introduces without ambiguity a tale. It doesn't
mean "we don't know exactly what country", but: this
is about a fictional country". Sometimes it looks like
: "in a country beyond the seven seas", or "beyond
thirty kingdoms", and so on.
I'll try to look closer at your semantic
interpretation of the original sentence, because I
find it very interesting.
--- Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd proudly like to announce that I just finished
> the translation of a
> longer sentence in S7. It is the first sentence of
> 'The Northwind and
> the Sun'. Sorry for repeatedly translating the same
> texts...
>
> In case you are interested, the following webpage
> shows the S7 IPA-like
> text, smooth translation, close translation, and
> interlinears:
>
>
http://www.theiling.de/projects/s7/s_06.html#s_06_01
>
> Enjoy!
>
> I think I urgently need some cold beverage now and
> maybe some food (I
> forgot the time again).
>
> Bye,
> Henrik
>
> PS: I decided against an ASCIIfied version of IPA on
> my webpage,
> because S7 phonetics renders that almost totally
> unreadable.
> So to view the page correctly, I'd probably need
> a Unicode
> capable browser with IPA fonts.
=====
Philippe Caquant
"High thoughts must have high language." (Aristophanes, Frogs)
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