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Re: IPA / SAMPA question

From:Carlos Thompson <chlewey@...>
Date:Sunday, January 19, 2003, 13:57
Mike Ellis wrote:

> How do I show the difference between the sounds of Spanish r versus rr ?
> it [4] and [r] or is it [r] and [r:] ? I looked at the IPA site with the > sound samples and 4 sounds more like the Japanese r.
Well, they are usually represented as /r/ and /rr/, both in IPA and SAMPA, but the actual sounds are: /rr/, written either "r" (beginning of word) or "rr" (intervocalic), is [r], with no phonemic lenght. /r/, written "r" intervocalic or in clusters, is [4]. /r/ in codas, might be a single trilled [r], a flap [4] or a multiple trilled [rr] acording to dialect. There is, of course, some dialectal variation, i.e. mountain dialects in Ecuador and Southern Colombia (Peru?), pronounce /rr/ as [Z] or [z`]. -- Carlos Th