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Re: Language and personal names

From:B.Philip.Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, September 25, 1998, 15:03
At 08:54 +0200 on 23.9.1998, vardi wrote:

> Steg Belsky wrote: > > > > > > > I can't really help with this, but a friend of mine's lastname is Nemes, > > Nemesh originally (pre-immigration). It might have something to do with > > it. > > > Nemesh in Hebrew is "freckle" - don't know if that helps.
There is a Hungarian surname Nemes /nEmES/.
> > Also, i just learned that, interestingly, Hebrew is one of the few(?) > > languages to refer to Gypsys by their own name, _Romanim_ (from Romany > > "romano"). > > I've never heard that. The word I've heard is tzo'anim - IIRC, some > obscure Biblical term chosen because of its similarity to Zigeune.
I read about some gypsies learning Sanskrit and beginning to detest the traditional name of their people, since they erroneously thought it was identical to Sanskrit loman/Roman "body hair"! The people in question is actually known as .Doma (with a retroflex .d) in Sanskrit -- which word in turn is said to be of Austronesian origin, but they give no Austronesian meaning, so I guess they just failed to get at an I.E. etymology and assumed an Austronesian origin just because of the retroflex initial consonant :( BTW: 17th century Swedish authors "identified" the Swedes and Danes with biblical Gog and Magog. I hope modern Hebrew doesn't! ;) /BP B.Philip. Jonsson <bpj@...> Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant (Tacitus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------