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Off topic but curious (was: A bunch of oxymorons?)

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 19, 2001, 17:24
At 10:29 pm +0100 18/9/01, Dan Jones wrote:
>J Y S Czhang wrote: > >> In a message dated 17.09.2001 07:55:07 AM, dan@FEUCHARD.FSNET.CO.UK >writes: >> >> >Pagan here too, principally Romano-Greek. There are more of us about than >> >you think... >> > >> er, eh, excuse me, but I think ya mean Greco-Roman, right? > >That's what most people *would* say, quite right. My religion is more based >on the ancient Roman one- hence my putting "Romano-" before Greek.
So is there any Greek, really? If so, in what way?
>Strictly >speaking I prefer "Religio Romana" anyway- Oi daown't 'old wiv orl that >syncretism stuff, me. I prefer the comfortable domesticity of the Roman >tradition- the Ancient Greek beliefs always seem so bleak.
But the 'religio Romana' was syncretic; it inherited elements from its Indo-European past, notably its chief diety Iuppiter (as the Romans spelled it << *(d)iouis pater << PIE *djewis IIRC) - the same deity, as I'm sure you know, turns up in Germanic as *Tiwas, giving Old Norse Tyr and Old English Tiw whose name is still preserved in "Tue's day". But there were unquestionably Etruscan elements in the religion; the Lares (not sure about the Penates) are of Etruscan origin IIRC. OK - I guess you mean you don't like the syncretism with the Greek religion; I must admit I've always thought the two religions did not fit well together. What about the syncretism with later 'mystery' religions such as Mithraism & Isiacism? Among the Greeks, the Homeric writings (Iliad & Odyssey) were regarded as the canon of their religion, with the so-called 'Homeric Hymns' and the works of Hesiod being, so to speak, deuterocanonical. I don't think the Romans had anything quite in the same category. How do you regard these works? What about Vergil's Aeneid? I'm not asking any of these question with any hostile or anti-pagan intent. I am genuinely curious (after all, I've known these religions to some extent for some 50 years). Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================


Dan Jones <dan@...>