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Re: Vowels?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, January 24, 2002, 19:28
En réponse à Chris Palmer <cecibean@...>:

> > /f/ >
Well, it the contact really existed between the teeth and the upper lip, the air flow couldn't pass, and you would have a labiodental stop (a perfectly acceptable sound, but not a fricative) or at best an affricate. And even if we accepted this example, it would prove nothing. After all, /i/ is definitely a vowel (according to your line of course), and yet I can easily pronounce it with my tongue against the palate, and even *pressed* against it. So contact between articulators is not a relevant criterion to separate vowels and consonants. BTW, I thought you were *asking* us the definition of vowels, and you seem to resist the idea that no strict definition could be given, by trying to give all kinds of definitions of vowels vs. consonants. Why bother asking us things when you already know the answer and refuse to accept any other? Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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