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Re: Vowels?

From:Chris Palmer <cecibean@...>
Date:Thursday, January 24, 2002, 3:12
On Wednesday, January 23, 2002, at 06:55 , Padraic Brown wrote:

>> draw a clear line between, for example, /i/ and /c,/ (c cedilla, a >> palatal >> fricative). > > But no such clear line can be drawn between [i] and [R] (the > American throaty r, not trilled). I.e., Christophe brings up good > points about "syllabic consonants". For me, the only difference > is that the tongue is drawn back a couple mm for the [R]. I tend > to think of them as vowels, as too many categories make my head > spin. ;)
No line need be drawn: [R] is a vowel, just as much as [i] is. Traditional grammarians have it that the vowels are "a, e, i, o, u and sometimes y", but from an articulatory point of view, that's not the case. (In addition to the tongue articulation difference, though, [R] as I say it has rounded lips.) -- Chris

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Padraic Brown <agricola@...>
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>