Re: Adposition or Case for Ground of Motion

taliesin the storyteller wrote:
>As For Linguistics, this brings us into very interesting territory that
>I seem to recall have been discussed here before, namely what meaning is
>covered by verbs contra adverbs. In English, we have "It floated down
>the stream", where the manner of movement is part of the verb, while in
>other languages one says something akin to "He downwards_moved the
>stream floatingly", moving the manner out of the verb and into an
>adverb. Talmy has looked into this and the keywords to search for are
>"path manner Talmy".
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Indeed, Talmy refers to the phenomenon as conflation and writes extensively
on it.  His conflation patterns form the basis for the morphological
categories of Conflation, Derivation, and Format in my Ithkuil language,
where such conflations of verb + manner or verb + means are formalized
schematically, as opposed to being covert in languages such as English
(What Whorf would've labelled a "cryptotype"), e.g., why the verb "hand" as
in "Hand me that book" conflates GIVE + BY MEANS OF ONE'S HAND, but the
verb "shoulder" as in "Shoulder that burden" does NOT mean GIVE + BY MEANS
OF ONE'S SHOULDER.