Re: Representing tones in X-Sampa; Khmer phonemes (for Tim May)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Quoting Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>:
>
> > Unless of course you use the approach where /a2)/ is the diphthong and
> > /a_2/ is /a/ on the second tone
>
> If I use that approach and my audience is aware of it, yes!
Given all the problems with /a_2/-for-diphthong, I think it almost make
more sense to remove it as an option in CXS.

> > (IIUC, [a_2] wouldn't make sense because
> > there's no phonetic second tone).
>
> I'm positive I've heard 'bout a second tone in Chinese, and tone pretty much
> has to be phonetic, hasn't it? Anyone sinaically enlightened feeling like
> commenting?
Well, what I meant was that the phonetic realisation of tones will differ
from language to language, so there's no 'phoneitc second tone', only
phonemic ones. A phonemic second tone might be _H or _L or _H_R or
something. Or so it seems to me, I might be wrong.

--
Tristan

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