Chinese poetry, Futurism & etc(was Re: Poetry)

In a message dated 2000:09:20 12:57:39 PM, yl112@CORNELL.EDU quotes my
improvized rendition of Chinese poetry (circa T'ang Dynasty) and then writes:

>>     Torch(es) bright(en) (the) night
>>     (I) sit guard(ing)
>>     (the) Kingdom (will) stand
>
>Wow.  :-p  I must see if Chinese poetry is available in English
>translation--reading poetry in translation makes me wince, but I honestly
>don't have the time right now to learn Chinese from scratch without help!
    Oh the best & closest English translations of Classical Chinese poetry is
done by Wai-Lim Yip, i.e. his _Chinese Poetry: An Anthology of Major Modes
and Genres_.    Yip is my favourite translator/editor of Chinese poetry AND
he himself is a contemporary poet (he teaches - or used to teach - Literature
at U. of CA in San Diego).
    In certain circles, Yip is controversial. His interpretations of Chinese
Classical language - especially poetics - is almost like a Chinese, "green"
(ecology-minded) version of the Italian and Russian Futurists... in the use
of elliptical language (not so much the "language of rupture" or
"anti-syntax.") {IIRC, Yip was influenced by certain Futurist ideas... made
it more his own, of course}

    Viivo -my ConLang - is my beginning ConLanger's attempt to bring a bunch
of these ideas into a ConLang: poetic ellipsis-as-grammatical structure,
mangling/mutating language(s), use of onomatopoeia, etc..

    enuff said, never enuff done...

        czHANg

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