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Re: English Subjunctive

From:Andrew Patterson <endipatterson@...>
Date:Saturday, November 1, 2003, 22:37
Another interesting thing that I've just noticed about the subjunctive:
It seems to have two subjects.

We say I[subject 1] wish[verb] he[subject 2] would stop talking[verb phrase]

I asked if anyone thought the subjunctive is also a type of relative
clause. The truth is I don't know.

We do not usually use pronouns with relative clauses, so it is difficult to
relate it that way.

But, thinking of that great film, "She" with Ursula Andress. In the film
Ursula was refered to as "She who must be obeyed." If I convert this into a
relative clause, I could say,

"I[subject 1]am going to visit she[subject 2] who must be obeyed.

Somehow,

"I'm going to visit her who must be obeyed," sounds wrong, so relative
clauses (or at least the one above has two subjects but no object.

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

By the way, if you haven't seen the film it's well worth seeing.

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