Re: logic vocabulary

On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 01:04 , Remi Villatel wrote:
[snip]
> My idea:
>
> (WORD1) ! Noun  !  Adjective     ! Transitive verb    ! Intrans. verb
> =========================================================================
> Stative ! girl  ! typic of girl  ! to give birth to   ! to grow up
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Active  ! woman ! typic of woman ! to make a woman of ! to become a woman
> =========================================================================
>
> (WORD2) ! Noun  !  Adjective     ! Transitive verb    ! Intrans. verb
> =========================================================================
> Stative ! boy   ! typic of boy   ! to give birth to   ! to grow up
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Active  ! man   ! typic of man   ! to make a man of   ! to become a man
> =========================================================================
[snip]
> This way, you have an opposition and a much better one IMHO that
> man/woman.
Well, it is better than 'stative woman' ~ 'active man' in that it is no
longer sexist. But having had children of my own & now having
grandchildren, as well as having taught in secondary schools for 27 years,
  I can assure you that both boys and girls are *VERY* active indeed! I
fail to see anything remotely stative about them!!

It just does not make sense.
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On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 05:46 , # 1 wrote:
[snip]
> That's OK I'll nevermore make a distinction between male and female
Why not? They are different, I can assure you.

> (If I do
> it another time I will receive an other ton of messages to tell it to me.
> ..)
You received three (hardly a ton) because you equated feminine with
stative and masculine with active, that is why. If you had distinguished
man and woman as male & female, no one would have objected.

> I'll make the distinction with ages when it will concern people.
That is one distinction - but it still does not correspond to stative ~
active. The most stative people are generally the most old - certainly not
children.

The problems seems to me to be the desire to categorize all
concepts/entities as having both 'stative' and 'active' states. What are
you going to do with concepts like "north" ~ "south", "left" ~ "right"? As
I said in an earlier mail, I really do advise that you re-think your
"board" and try out some different ideas.

Ray
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