Re: Strong/weak verbs, expanded infinitives and applicatives

From: "Henrik Theiling" <theiling@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Strong/weak verbs, expanded infinitives and
applicatives

 > Strictly speaking, strong verbs are irregular, yes.  But
 > they
 > are distinguished from irregular verbs in German since the
 > only thing that's irregular is the stem vowel.  So for
 > knowing
 > how to conjugate a strong verb, you only need to know
 > which
 > ablaut class it is in.

OK, I understood.

 >    Additional to these endings, you need to know the
 > ablaut sequence.
 >    That's all.  I think there's only a limited number of
 > possible
 >    ablaut classes, maybe around seven or so excluding a
 > few variants.
 >    But since I never had to learn this as an L2, I don't
 > exactly
 >    know.

Same here. My German-English dictionary only lists English
irregular verbs.

 > This is used for defining when to use a comma, of course.
 > Dunno about
 > the reformed rules, however.

§76: Bei Infinitiv-, Partizip- oder Adjektivgruppen oder bei
entsprechenden Wortgruppen kann man ein (gegebenenfalls
paariges) Komma setzen, um die Gliederung des Ganzsatzes
deutlich zu machen bzw. Missverständnisse auszuschließen.

Wir haben auch gelernt, dass man kein Komma setzten muss,
wenn vorher ein "hinweisendes" Wort auftaucht, das den
erweiterten Infinitiv einleitet.

 > So 'besprechen' would be the applicative of 'sprechen
 > über'.

OK, but how do you call "um zu ..." constructions?

Carsten

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