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Re: Imperial and Cherani Trade Speech Consonants and X-SAMPA

From:Tristan <kesuari@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 12, 2003, 7:36
Elyse Grasso wrote:
> r, l, w, y: rabbit, letter, wet, yellow. I'm sure they are on the chart > somewhere...
/r\/ (alveolar or retroflex approximate), /l/ (alveolar or dental lateral approximate), /w/ and /j/ (palatal approximate). w isn't in the pulmonic consonants chart with the rest of them, being a labio-velar approximate (there's no labio-velar column). It sits with a bunch of other stuff somewhere else.
> (my dialect is rhotic, but I'm not sure my mouth is: I > never really learned to pronounce Rs properly in Spanish. Or Russian, > or Japanese.)
They're taps or flaps or trills (multiple taps or flaps). In most American dialects, the T in 'latter' or the D in 'ladder' is similar. Try thinking of an R-y T or D.
> ll and rr are front and back trills rather than flaps.
For the rr, do you mean sort of like the French r? Then it'd be an uvular trill /R\/.
> ll is sort of Welsh-sounding.
Can't help you there, sorry. Tristan.


Elyse Grasso <emgrasso@...>