Re: Gothic language
From: | Charles <catty@...> |
Date: | Thursday, August 26, 1999, 16:06 |
FFlores wrote:
> What *is* Bahasa Indonesia? I was under the impression that
> it really *was* an conlang/auxlang. Or is it just a formalized
> and simplified unification of several dialects? Or another
> thing?
I guess it is just another state-sanctioned prestige dialect,
like Parisian or ceceo Thpanish. Normally, languages tend to
dialect-mosaic across countries and blend at all the borders.
> What do you call a particular language if was developed over time
> by a lot of people? A pidgin/creole, or an auxlang? Can you draw
> the line?
A p/c is a relexification, and most learners of foreign languages
do a kind of relexification. As do conlangers. Let's say it
in Authoritative Academese:
: See, for example, the statement by Bickerton and Giv?=AB=D1n (1976: 12)=
,
: "It would appear that, in the classic contact situation, the
: average speaker begins by gradually relexifying his original grammar--
: slotting newly-acquired vocabulary into surface structures
: characteristic of his own language." Thus, one might describe the
: form of Language A spoken by some persons as really a "relexified B",
: or, in my terminology, one might say that they are speaking A
: (i.e., using the lexification of A) with an approximation of B
: content form. I think it probable that bilinguals will almost always
: experience some tendency to speak each of their languages in a manner
: which at times suggests a relexification of the other, and that that
: tendency is at the bottom of both pidginization and linguistic converge=
nce.=20
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~grace/eln6.html
http://www.uchrony.be/europanto/europanto.html
Sometimes it is fun to erase all the lines. Borders are a failure
to see a continuum. Every person speaks a separate ideolect,
conlang people just do it more deliberately. And every state
enforces conformity.
> And finally, why are your messages sent in Japanese coding :-?
I am still playing with kanji ...