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Re: Intrusive Articles!

From:Harald Stoiber <stoiberh@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 29, 2003, 22:15
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:34:26 +0200, Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> wrote:

>Intrusive articles -- while most certainly not an official >linguistic term, it's what I call Jovian's most recent >grammatical feature.
Wow! According to you examples and description I have intrusive articles as well in my conlang. :-)))) Yet they are more excessive because they can even occur separately for each apposition. It would look like this: I-GEN ART-DEF-GEN Garfield-APP ART-DEF-CONV cat-APP ART-INDEF friend-NOUN Ok, for the abbreviations........ GEN=Genitive case ART=Article DEF=definite GEN=general reference (to outside world) CONV=conversation reference (to something said before) APP=Apposition (narrows down the referent of the head noun - see my recent post on this topic) INDEF=indefinite NOUN=any part of speech that is a noun So the phrase means: a friend of mine who is the cat previously mentioned and also is the Garfield that the speaker assumes the listener to know in his/her real-world context (that is: despite any Garfield that may have been mentioned during the ongoing discourse) Phew... that's tough to describe! ;-) So, I conclude: If you mix intrusively intrusive articles with an especially peculiar concept of definiteness then it thoroughly blows the human mind (mine for example, as I am writing this. *ggg*) Cheers, Harald :-)))