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Re: Syntaxy-Turvy (long, crazy)

From:Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 28, 2000, 16:19
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:43:47 -0400, Ed Heil <edheil@...> wrote:

>>How do you handle three participants' sentences, like "I give the dog a >bone"? > >Ah, yes, I think those are called (at least by some people)
"ditransitives."
> >Perhaps I could replace them with a sentence with three verbs: Action, >Passion, and Intention. (X happened to me, and I did Y in order that Z
might
>happen)
<...> Note that there are verbs describing situations with more than 3 participants. OTOH, many isolating languages allow only one nominal object for one verb. To translate Christophe's example, you need two transitive verbs and form a chain of them: I giv(ing)-to dog give bone ('give-to' and 'give' are different lexemes; 'give-to' works very much like a preposition 'to' or 'for'). The problem of prepositions is solved thus, too. I think there is more than one way to embed this system into your reverse syntax. Interestingly, it seems that verbs tend to denote dynamic situations with potentially several participants, whereas nouns more typically point to relatively stable entities with usually only few features attributed to them in each occurrence. So verbal syntax is usually richer and requires some means to distinguish more roles. Can this be reversed, I wonder? Basilius